I made significant progress on filling in Otto's neck! I can see the light at the end of the French Knot tunnel! Yippee! And, there was no chuckling tonight....just a great deal of patience on his part! In an earlier post, I was asked how I do the French knots on canvas. I am using six strands of DMC floss and I wrap the needle twice after coming up in an empty hole. I then go down into an adjacent hole over at least one canvas thread or intersection. Hope that helps!